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Wellingtonian
Posted: Aug 3 2010, 02:07 PM


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QUOTE (Peter Gilbert @ Aug 2 2010, 09:00 PM)
Very interesting Armstrong was a facinating case,I have been to Hay quite a lot recently have seen Armstrongs office and that of his rival that he tried to poison,have looked at the old court house where he inhabited no 1 cell when first arrested,visited Mayfield his home at Cussop and church cottage where the exhumed body of Katherine his wife had an autopsy and have had her unmarked grave shown to me at Cussop church where Armstrong was a Church warden.
A fortnight ago Martin Beales a Solicitor who lived in Mayfield and ironically also practiced from Armstrongs old office (even had his old desk) sadly died of cancer Beales had written a book claiming Armstrongs inocence I am about to read it.
Hay on wye still talkes about Armstrong and many locals knew people who knew Armstrong.
I do some volentary work for the Ambulance service recently I met a charming old lady who showed me actual documents written by him to her father in law totally facinating another 103 year old actually knew him.
I love Hay on Wye I live in Llandrindod Wells although a native of Shrewsbury and lived many years in Telford but for some reason I keep going back to Hay and Cussop to find out more about these events that happened all those years ago.

Do you have the details of the publisher and the title of the book, please? THat sounds interesting.


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Peter Gilbert
Posted: Aug 4 2010, 07:17 AM


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Martin Beales book is called "The Hay poisoner" published by
Robert Hale ltd,Clerkenwell house,Clerkenwell Green ,London EC1R 0HT,also an excelent book is "Ehumation of a Murder" by Robin Odell published by Mandrake of Oxford,PO box250,Oxford OX1 1AP.
The latter book I have seen for sale at "Murder and Mayhem" a bookshop almost oposite the Clock tower in Hay and ironically almost oposite Armstrongs office,last week I called in and the still have copies priced at £12.99p.
I have read on many true crime cases this one facinates me especially as the town has changed so little and I know many of the places conected with it.
Another one that intrigues me was the murder of Simon Dale at Heath house,Hopton by Bucknell and of course the subsequent trial of the Baroness De Stemple for defrauding the estate of her aunt Lady Margerate Illingworth is also facinating De stemple was aquitted of murder through lack of evidence but the police are not looking for anyone else.
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Posted: Aug 5 2010, 05:05 PM


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You could try...Exhumation of a murder by Robin Odell.....The Hay poisoner by Martin Beales and Dead not Buried by the same chap.
I do know that there was talk of a big scandal at the Hay masonic lodge and that both my father and Grand father left the lodge and they would never tell me why,but its all to do with the deeds for the house called The Moor on the Clifford road which burnt down soon after.I used to visit the ruins as a child and my Father always made cryptic remarks about what the walls could tell etc etc .......its fascinating,and I miss Hay badly but there is NO chance i could live in my hometown as the proerty prices have gone crazy due to the festival etc etc etc etc.......There is a lovely web site called Old Hay and I even found some film of the 1967 meet at the clock tower on boxing day and there he was sat on his horse with my Mother beside him.....quite took my breath away!
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Peter Gilbert
Posted: Aug 5 2010, 06:12 PM


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I agree Hay prices are ridiculous I was there today and at Clyro.This Sunday the Three Cocks Vintage rally is on at Boat Farm (home of the Gibson Watts) I will be there taking my Hillman Minx 1962.
Armstrong certainly was a mason and there was a controversy concerning the convayancing of a large country estate witch for some reason Armstrong would not complete on,I wonder if there is a conection?.
I must admit I love Cussop dingle where he lived and find "Mayfield" facinating.
When Martin Beale wrote his book he actually located Armstrongs last surviving daughter and invited her to the house,she had not been there since the 1920s and had not known for years of the circumstancies of her fathers death totally incredable but it is like it all happened just five years ago in Hay.
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