Did anyone see the programme showing postbags left in porches, behind Wheely Bins etc?
I could send them a corker of a photo, 5 bags and sacks hanging out of our porch.
We agreed to one bag temporarily being left and after 5 years ended up with 5 and pretty well being used as a sorting office despite trying to stop them doing it. I even approached John Tandy as he is a councillor and I believe works for the Royal Mail but needless to say he did absolutely nothing. In the end I had to approach Postwatch who said that Royal Mail could not provide the service they do without these drops but agreed the security of the mail was not being provided.
What started off with a goodwill gesture ended up with us being abused by Royal Mail and I'm glad that someone has brought this situation to light as any competition to Royal Mail would not be able to behave in this cavalier way with our post.
You can tell its xmas when the media start the annual "look how dodgy royal mail is" output. I agree leaving bags unsecured at customers properties is not a good idea but unfortunatly there is little other option short of having secured metal boxes on the streets to store outgoing bags of mail but from what I've been told, whilst this option has been approaced nationaly, the majority of councils will not give permission for the boxes to be placed on the streets.
If you are not happy with the postmen leaving bags on your porch, I suggest phoning the mail centre in town and asking to speak to one of the delivery managers because you should be able to withdraw your participation as a drop point.
It might not be a good idea to take photos of the mail because it most likely breaches the security agreement you signed with royal mail when becoming a drop point and could get you into trouble.
Jon Tandy does work for Royal Mail but has no influence of that side of the business, Jon works on the processing night shift sorting the packets for the LD TF and SY6+ postcode area as well as being the union rep for the people who work around him on that shift and as such has no involvment or input with delivery operations. With this issue, you have more power with royal mail as the property holder than Jon does as a councillor, union rep or royal mail employee.
the opening up of the market has not brought better options, whilst I agree fully that the way mail bags have been left on your property is not a good thing and needs to be looked at, I have seen activity from the competitor companies that make royal mail look like the perfect operation.
There was one incident earlier in the year that made the front page of the shropshire star where mail was dumped in a skip (in harlscott if I remember correctly) and when it was investigated, it turned out to be the mail collected by one of the competition companies that should have been delivered to royal mail for sortation and delivery but wasn't. I cant remember off hand which company it was though.
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| It might not be a good idea to take photos of the mail because it most likely breaches the security agreement you signed with royal mail when becoming a drop point and could get you into trouble. |
Hardly,we didn't ever sign any agreement nor were we ever asked to, we were just asked to have one bag,on a temporary basis and it turned into 3 bags and 2 sacks over 5 years. I told several postmen we wanted it stopped and was given phone numbers to ring (at our expense) where I was put on hold or told to ring another no. or got no reply. That is why I ended up going to Postwatch and still had bags left after they intervened. <_<
We could have taken it further but declined as we have enough hassle of our own to deal with but Postwatch did get some compensation for what was originally a kind gesture on our part (my Grandad was a local postie) but turned into abuse from Royal Mail. :angry:
I don't think the word security and Royal Mail are synonymous, these bags were left hanging out of the porch in view of the road and despite all we went through with Postwatch and the trees that used to partly screen our porch from the road now been removed I have been subsequently asked again to have a bag!!
I know that postbags have been stolen from properties as the postmen have told me.
Jon Tandy most definately had a responsibility to look into this as a councillor and Royal Mail employee IMO.
In Manchester the postman leaves his bag of mail on the wall outside my house and goes around our street delivering mail, leaving this bag (full of many people's mail) unsecured and unwatched for about 15 minutes. Every morning.
Should I inform the authorities?