Title: Anyone Else Think Our Mp's A Friggin' Moron?
Sam - April 20, 2006 06:26 PM (GMT)
Everytime I hear about what our illustrious Member of Parliament, Daniel Kawczynski, has been up to, I always feel somewhat ashamed that he is representing our town in London. He's said some ridiculous things in the House of Commons and made some pretty ridiculous suggestions. For example, after cabinet member Margaret Beckett declined his offer to
open the new Livestock Market, he proceeded to asking the Prime Minister to do so.
And now this... the parading of cows from Shropshire along Downing Street!
What next? Please... a resignation.
Proud Salopian - April 21, 2006 10:09 AM (GMT)
Actually, Daniel has been a very good MP. He has now twice spoken at Prime Minister's Questions (which is a good number for an ordinary MP in half a year) - both not about party politics but Shrewsbury issues (the hospital and then flooding). The two issues you have brought up relate to the disgraceful situation the government has put our farmers in. Maybe your real problem with him is that he's a Conservative?
If anything let the man stay on for many more years!
Chingwakabungya - April 21, 2006 11:44 AM (GMT)
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| Anyone Else Think Our Mp's A Friggin' Moron? |
Er... No!
I may not live in Shrewsbury myself, but from what I've heard, he's not done much wrong and you're lucky to have him.
Sam - April 21, 2006 11:44 AM (GMT)
He has been laughed at by the house on several occasions!!
It's a shame that when we vote for a political party, we can't choose our representation. I voted Conservative last election, by the way.
Proud Salopian - April 21, 2006 12:44 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Sam @ Apr 21 2006, 12:44 PM) |
He has been laughed at by the house on several occasions!!
It's a shame that when we vote for a political party, we can't choose our representation. I voted Conservative last election, by the way. |
He's also quite popular on the Tory benches - he's only jeered by the Labour benches because, well, that's what happens!
The system we have is still better than if we had Proportional Representation (PR), as then we would probably have the dreaded "list system".
If you voted Conservative at the last election then you should be pleased that Daniel won and he is after all a true blue Tory. Makes things interesting for Shrewsbury as we have now the world's tallest town crier and Britain's tallest ever MP!
ChrisBradley - April 21, 2006 05:59 PM (GMT)
I know he has been the subject of much cross-party debate and even Jon Tandy (Labour) has sent letters to the Shrewsbury Chronicle regarding Daniel's handling of the Issues of Shropshire dairy farmers and the Flood Defense question that he asked during PM's Question Time on 29 March.
The letters are on
Jon's Website in the Letters to the Press section under the Media link if anyone missed them in the Chronicle.
I have not heard a lot about Danial since the election although admittidly I do not tend to follow political issues very much.
Ant SPCS - April 21, 2006 10:31 PM (GMT)
I think that he's doing an okay job.. just hearing Shrewsbury talked about during PMQ's is great for the town.
I must admit I cringed when he mentioned the wellies!
Town_Walls - April 21, 2006 11:29 PM (GMT)
What realistically can be expected from an opposition backbench MP in his first year in the House of Commons? From the (limited) reports I've heard, he's making a good effort at representing the constituency.
Anyway, when it comes to embarrassing his constituents, I suspect that the bar has been well and truly raised by the efforts of Lembit Opik next door in Montgomeryshire!
Redsquirrel - April 22, 2006 08:25 AM (GMT)
I like him - He seems a decent boke and always comes across very polite and humble .....maybe a certain defeated Labour PPC could learn from this man!
He appears to be a bit of a traditional Tory as well - so I wonder what he privately thinks of 'Dave' Cameron's fluffy, liberal 'New' Conservative Party?
Proud Salopian - April 22, 2006 09:23 AM (GMT)
Dan was a supporter of Mr Fox at the leadership contest. He's fairly eurosceptic and is certainly a patriot!
Redsquirrel - April 24, 2006 05:54 PM (GMT)
Does anyone believe that Cameron will refloat the Conservative Party? I'm not impressed with the bloke at all.He reminds me too much of Tony B-Liar when he first came to the public's attention.
Personally I reckon that William Hague was the best Tory leader since Maggie Thatcher -Pity he never stayed on because I think he'd be our PM now.
Alex - April 30, 2006 03:14 PM (GMT)
Red Squirrel, hello, Do you really believe that Maggie was a good leader?
Redsquirrel - April 30, 2006 08:32 PM (GMT)
Hello Alex, Although I think Mrs T was far from perfect, I'd say she was the best we had at the time.God only knows where we'd all be now if Kinnock had have ever got in.
Whithout a doubt her policies did do alot of harm to the country - under the Tories ,much our manucturing base was dismantled and sold off. But at the same time, many ordinary folk did do quite well underThatcher -my parents included.
She stood firm against the USSR - unlike Blair (a.k.a Bush's poodle), she was the one leading the Americans.Reagan was definately her pet monkey.
She didn't mess over the Falklands either and gained hell of alot more support off the back of this conflict - compare this with the current Iraq crises.
Mapman - May 3, 2006 04:36 PM (GMT)
No, not really. As Tory M.P's go he's alright (especially when compared to some of the useless M.P's Shrewsbury has had in the past... and when compared to certain other new Shropshire Tory M.P's) even if he is a bit of a media-whore at times.
Personally I wouldn't vote for him, but at least he's respectable (unlike the previous incumbent after 2001).
lemon squeezer - May 3, 2006 07:38 PM (GMT)
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manucturing base was dismantled and sold off. But at the same time, many ordinary folk did do quite well underThatcher -my parents included.
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Many did not! There were queues of unemployed people everywhere and we are paying the price of the great council land and house sell off right now.
The Tory party can only get voted in if it pretends to oppose everything she stood for and makes out it has a small tot of social responsibility.
She did spawn some fantastic comedy and satire however.
Proud Salopian - May 3, 2006 07:50 PM (GMT)
Thatcher's economic reforms, though hard hitting at the time, were absolutely necersary as they brought Britain out of the dark ages of the 1970s and into the modern era of the 1990s. May I need not remind you that the current economic success of this country is mainly to do with the reforms brought about in the 1980s. Look at France to see how our economy would be like now without them - high unemployment, restrictive labour laws, higher taxation, etc.
lemon squeezer - May 4, 2006 03:22 PM (GMT)
Yes because they have a fantastic Health Service, so taxes are higher.
Thatcher wasn't hard hitting, self serving are the words you are looking for.
The health service BTW was on its knees when she was removed which if I remember was due to her being a huge embarrassment to her party.
We have a minimum wage now and certainly more help for families and much as I would like there to be a feasible opposition to Labour, the Tories would have to completely change their colours and geniunely mean what they say to become that.
Alex - May 25, 2006 11:06 AM (GMT)
I attended the youth question time at the Guildhall, he was there and came across very well. he was talking about green issues, and lets face it Shrewsbury is not very good on that one!. In oswestry they have different bins for all there rubbish, so as to be recycled, thus saving the landfill sites overflowing. I have to go up to my local pub and recycle my tins and glass. Young people are really concerned about the environment, and it seems so selfish that people cant be bothered to recycle, cos its easier to put it in the bin, all our actions have consequences, right? <_<
Alex - May 25, 2006 11:07 AM (GMT)
hi Red Squirrel. On Maggie, what did she ever do for woman in Britain?
lemon squeezer - May 25, 2006 08:13 PM (GMT)
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| I attended the youth question time at the Guildhall, he was there and came across very well. he was talking about green issues, and lets face it Shrewsbury is not very good on that one!. |
He probably doesn't remember that his party did absolutely nothing to address this when they were in power even though there was pressure to do so.
Proud Salopian - May 25, 2006 11:59 PM (GMT)
Yes, but that was a decade ago. Daniel was probably still at University at the time. The Conservative Party now is quite a different organisation than what it was back then, with a new generation of members and politicians.
Alex - May 26, 2006 02:27 PM (GMT)
No Lemon Squeezer you are right, none of the partys did anything about Environmental issues, but it wasent as important then, as it is now. All the more reason for them to be doing something now.
Please all dont put your tins and glass in the bin, put them in a box, and when its full recycle, do it for your children, every little bit helps. ;)
Redsquirrel - May 27, 2006 10:50 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Alex @ May 25 2006, 11:07 AM) |
| hi Red Squirrel. On Maggie, what did she ever do for woman in Britain? |
I'm sure that many women did well during the Thatcher years just as many men did badly.
Although you'd hardly class her as a feminist (whatever one of those are) by becoming Britain's first female Prime Minister, Thatcher showed that a woman can make it all the way to the top.
lemon squeezer - May 28, 2006 11:23 AM (GMT)
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| No Lemon Squeezer you are right, none of the partys did anything about Environmental issues, but it wasent as important then, as it is now. |
I'm gasping at this statement! Friends of my sister in LLangollen started the Centre for Alternative Technology which now has international acclaim after struggling in the wilderness for decades.
Any politician male or female can sell off their countrys' assets as she did but you somehow expect a woman to have a moral responsibility and she showed that she could be as ruthless as the next man/Tory. She is now an embarrassment to the 'new responsible' Tories who still all these years later have trouble treating women equably.
As a woman in the Thatcher era you were told 'time is money' Fine if you were able or happy having your children brought up by grandparents or earned/inherited enough money like her to employ childcare, otherwise hardluck. We are the party of the family she'd say but that 'time' is not paid work so presumably not important. :angry:
Alex - June 2, 2006 11:31 AM (GMT)
Lemon whatever, squeeze I meant that the environmental issues were not given as much attention then, (in the mainstream), as they are now. Everyone is more aware now. Good for your sister, wish there was more like her. All are aware now of environmental issues, even plastic bags in some super markets are biodegradable, that didnt happen ten years ago.
Town_Walls - December 17, 2006 10:22 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Town_Walls @ Apr 21 2006, 11:29 PM) |
What realistically can be expected from an opposition backbench MP in his first year in the House of Commons? From the (limited) reports I've heard, he's making a good effort at representing the constituency.
Anyway, when it comes to embarrassing his constituents, I suspect that the bar has been well and truly raised by the efforts of Lembit Opik next door in Montgomeryshire! |
Erm yes, Lembit is at it again:
BBC News
organic333 - January 8, 2007 09:41 PM (GMT)
I have not voted Conservative for decades and probably never will, but I have to admire the volume of work that our MP is doing to further the interests of the town.
I hope he will keep up the momentum and follow through all the things he has started.
the old codger - January 8, 2007 11:45 PM (GMT)
He certainly plugs Shrewsbury at Westminster but some of the questions he asks make me wonder....
"Written Answers — Prime Minister: Christmas (19 Dec 2006)
Daniel Kawczynski: To ask the Prime Minister what Christmas lights are in use at No. 10 Downing street; and what assessment he has made of their environmental impact."
See
http://www.theyworkforyou.com
Proud Salopian - January 9, 2007 11:10 AM (GMT)
Town_Walls - January 10, 2007 12:28 AM (GMT)
Precisely, surely it is the role of Her Majesty's Opposition to hold the government to account?
lemon squeezer - January 10, 2007 11:35 AM (GMT)
Yes, he could check whether their toilet paper is recycled next!
Given the choice, I'd prefer the bloke who doesn't tell me that I have to give birth on Shropshire soil, just so I please a few small minded voters.
Proud Salopian - January 10, 2007 03:33 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (lemon squeezer @ Jan 10 2007, 11:35 AM) |
| Given the choice, I'd prefer the bloke who doesn't tell me that I have to give birth on Shropshire soil, just so I please a few small minded voters. |
???
lemon squeezer - January 10, 2007 04:55 PM (GMT)
Perhaps you didn't read the Shrewsbury Chronicle front page a few weeks back when Daniel Kawczynski apparently told his wife she had to give birth in Shrewsbury Hospital so his daughter would be Shropshire born and bred! :rolleyes:
As it happened she nearly had to go to Telford, he must have been in a right froth! :D
He should have been more concerned that she and the baby would be ok than pleasing those sort who think it matters in the slightest where you are born.
Proud Salopian - January 10, 2007 06:06 PM (GMT)
I think maybe the media and you are making too much of this.. ;)
lemon squeezer - January 11, 2007 06:48 PM (GMT)
What you mean like Daniel's question about the light bulbs used in 10 Downing Street? ;)
Redsquirrel - January 11, 2007 07:13 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (lemon squeezer @ Jan 11 2007, 06:48 PM) |
| What you mean like Daniel's question about the light bulbs used in 10 Downing Street? ;) |
:D
the old codger - January 13, 2007 05:35 PM (GMT)
INTERNAL FLIGHTS SHOULD BE TAXED OUT OF EXISTENCE
"Flights within the UK should be taxed almost out of existence, a leading Tory MP said today. Tim Yeo, who chairs the House of Commons Environmental Audit Committee, said he wanted to see "virtually no" domestic flights taking off within a decade." - Independent.
Chingwakabungya - January 13, 2007 05:38 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (the old codger @ Jan 13 2007, 06:35 PM) |
INTERNAL FLIGHTS SHOULD BE TAXED OUT OF EXISTENCE
"Flights within the UK should be taxed almost out of existence, a leading Tory MP said today. Tim Yeo, who chairs the House of Commons Environmental Audit Committee, said he wanted to see "virtually no" domestic flights taking off within a decade." - Independent. |
Really? That sounds like a great idea, thanks for listing that. It's easy to get from anywhere in the UK to anywhere by train if you need to use public transport, and of course car if you have one. Plus I can only see this doing the environment some good.
Why on earth didn't we do this sooner?
Proud Salopian - January 13, 2007 05:44 PM (GMT)
"Why on earth didn't we do this sooner?"
Well it's not actually going to happen...
Chingwakabungya - January 13, 2007 05:46 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Proud Salopian @ Jan 13 2007, 06:44 PM) |
"Why on earth didn't we do this sooner?"
Well it's not actually going to happen... |
Shame, because it is actually a good idea from what I can see. Getting a plane from the UK to, um, the UK... How pointless...!
It would certainly let oil stocks last longer too, something I know all about, being a geologist and all...