I can't have been the only person to notice that some antisocial yobbo has been scattering leaflets and notices of protest about the proposed Dog Control Orders which will prohibit people from allowing dogs off lead within the Dingle and Quarry.

Apparently banning dog owners at long last from letting their pets run amok is 'threatening their human rights'. Doubtless in everyday life they are the sort of people who drive their white vans at speed outside infants schools.

Don't we have police, or even Town Centre wardens, to deal with these lowlifes?

I havent seen any notices posted but have had my attention drawn two young people in the quarry, dogs on leads granted but they have some pretty ferocious pitbull type dogs which they seem to encourage to bark at people walking past them. Goodness knows what it would be like if they let their dogs of the leash. Once again TW I think its the vigilance of the general public to report these yobtypes , but do people really care these days,I'd say no and thats why the yobs get away with it.

Actually Andy, whilst walking my dog a week or so ago I found that someone was sleeping rough on Burrs field surrounded by waste matter of all descriptions, bottles, litter and human excreta.
I have reported it to the disinterested police and then today I noticed a tent under the trees. It could be a different person but having had no feed back from my original contact except slight negativity I'll just save my phone bill for the fines I may have to pay for allowing my dog to get some exercise.

With regard to TW, I am quite shocked that he/she considers law abiding Shrewsbury citizens who happen to own dogs in such a poor light.

One could perhaps bring in a law that bans all drivers (a far greater threat to children and often adults too) from driving as soon as they ever exceed the speed limit. After all we are the superior species who can read a speedometer and should know when we are committing a crime. Dogs on the other hand who live by limited rules and instinct are all to be denied their freedom just because there are a few owners who flout the law or are inconsiderate.

The fact that Judith Williams seeks Green Flag status for the Quarry and for her Shrewsbury in Bloom ambitions is behind this draconian new law.
I can assure TW that the couple who have tried to draw townsfolks attention to this sneaky and unfair legislation are absolutely nothing like the picture he/she has portrayed and would be very offended by those comments.

An interview on Shropshire radio between a concerned vetinary nurse at Copthorne Surgery and Judith Williams took place last Thursday I believe.

Apparently JW told Emma the vetinary nurse that she put dogs before children in a previous telephone call before the radio interview.

The truth is that JW puts her vision for Shrewsbury before children hence the Dingle no longer being a place children can play hide and seek as I remember was encouraged back in the 1970s when a little thatched house was donated by someone and put in the Dingle for their enjoyment.
The Dingle is now a dated and depressing place filled with benches dedicated to dead people.

No 6th formers, dogs on leads, children not allowed to run around except in permitted areas no freedom of speech (apparently that is the other bit of legislation as the flyers and posters are litter)
Will that apply to the numerous planning application posters that are tied to lamposts for years sometimes?

People should be allowed to walk their dogs off the lead only in certain areas of the Quarry. But, only if it is the type of dog that will wander about and not bother anyone. And if it makes any mess then you as the owner should clear it up.

Looking at it from the other side, people should be able to sit on the grass in non dog sections and not have to worry about a dog off the lead running or barking at them, and without having to worry about sitting in something unpleasant.

There you go. I have solved the problem. It's not rocket science. Why can't common sense be used in arguments like this?

Squeezer. It's not illegal to sleep rough. If you report the needles, human excreta(not an expert spotting this myself) you saw to the council, they have a department who clear them up. As for your other points, some people are clearly not fit to keep dogs this ruling is clearly to keep dogs under control perhaps you should be blaming their owners for this plight. Finally how do you determine

Give it a large badge? Dogs are very unpredictable animals as we see more so lately from the media, they kill people in some cases.

I think personally all dogs should be chipped and owners should be licenced to keep them. This would perhaps stop irresponsible people from having a dog. There are lots of places you can take a dog to run free around in the countryside a good practice to keep some of their owners fit too!

First of all Andy it is illegal to sleep rough on coucil owned land ie: Burrs field and leave litter particularly that which poses a health hazard. I thought you were complaining that no one cares or bothers anymore?

Secondly did I say

??? no, eatshrewsbury said that, and went on quite rightly and non aggressively to say that it is all about common sense/tolerence/ good manners etc which sadly some people do not have, dog owners or not.

I actually said

Your final point is one that the many joggers who run with their dogs like my neighbour are furious about. They feel that their right to use the Quarry to keep healthy and excercise their dogs which they have been doing without any problem for years is going to become illegal. My neighbour does not want to get in a car to find somewhere to jog!

Sorry about the misquote their Squeezer, you seem to go along with it however.
Without going into much detail, I work within the youth justice system. I can tell you that in the cities now that vicious dogs are being used in muggings. Hence the sighting by myself of some suspicious lads in the quarry coincidentally. The dog attacks the victim they are then robbed. Some dog owners are now going for larger breeds to protect them. One good reason that dogs should always be kept on leads whilst in public, I feel.

Regarding the 'trespass', it would have been the obligation of the police then to report this to the council or indeed you could also. I'm amazed they havent taken action because if you say its illegal to camp on council owned land then the person/people there are breaking the law and you have a strong case.

Well done for reporting it, I would certainly follow it up. I would advise you keep the 'incident number' of anything you report to the police.Read MORE....and MORE

Andy, would you just be able to clarify your view please? You just said that, "dogs should always be kept on leads whilst in public", yet in another post higher up you said that, "there are lots of places you can take a dog to run free around in the countryside".

Do you mean always on a lead or just always in certain places? As it happens I was out "in the countryside" a couple of weeks ago and a dog came charging at me. I had to shout at the owner to control their dog. Mostly I don't mind them, but I have been bitten on the leg while in the countryside. I can see the argument both ways.

Eastshrewsbury. I believe dogs should be able to run freely in wide open spaces. I think all owners need to be accountable for their dogs. I'm sure responsible owners would be prepared to have their dogs chipped and I hope licenced. This would then deter irresponsible owners from perhaps even owning a dog. My son jogs regularly and has been bitten by two different dogs. Lets face it some irresponsible owners have brought these new rulings into being its not at all the dogs fault.

As a council tax payer, I'm offended by their lack of concern for our public spaces.

I'm afraid their fly-posting campaign, with its underlying message that THEY have a right to let their animals run free through the park and to hell with the rest of us, does not give a good impression.

NEVER Ever trust a dog no matter how well trained they are completley unpredictable..I have had dogs of all sizes over the last 50yrs every one was trained but I never completley trusted any of them..I think the worst was a big german shepherd as gentle as a lamb on a lead and in the home My grandkids used to ride him like a horse and you could tell he loved it but he hated anything running fast and I never could train it out of him so when we went out he was on a lead,I loved that dog but I did not trust him :D

What about a poll:

Who would you put your trust in more. 1) a local councillor

2) A mutt


:lol: <_<


I know it's a difficult one 'cos dogs always put their self interests first, leave their messes behind for others to clear up and love playing dominance games !!!

BTW dogs & people have lived alongside eachother since mesolithic times. B)

You 'bang-on' a lot squeezer youd make a good councillor! Why dont you put yourself up for election

i believe if you have any issues with litter or graffitti it is the responsibility of the dog warden-but not part of her alleged duties she likes to do so the more you report it the better tee hee.
so if you want to report it i beleive it is the council you need to speak to.
also i agree completly with eat shrewsbury.
the quarry is a large open space and generally there is enough room for everyone. we have occassionally taken our dog there-on the lead, and clean up any mess after us as i hate it when people dont do that! but if it is quiet we do sometimes let him off to chase a ball and he doesnt bother anyone.
it is down to common sense really as eat shrewsbury says.
if you are a good sensible dog owner it should be fine.
but i know there are some who arent!
also as regards judith williams, i think she is a dog lover but not long ago she reported a dog for attacking some childrens toys as she was worried if they did this to a toy they could do worse to a child and so she wanted something done about the dog-cant remember what now, if just to be kept in an enclosed garden or more serious-so i dont think she puts dogs before children to be fair.

I have not read anything myself about this but I have been informed by a couple of people that the council have backed down due to an inordinate number of complaints from dog owners and non dog owners many of whom feel that there is more legislation proposed than is necessary. ^_^

Perhaps as responsible dog owners we need to have a re-think on who can even own dogs these days let alone keep them on leads SEE THIS

man gives dog kiss of life!

You have to draw the line somwhere surely! :D

policeman saves his dog!

How do you destroy a crow bar!!!!! :blink:

woman saves dog from snake!

Didn't Simon Airey lose his snakes from the Pet Shop on the Mardol quite often? :o

Finally dog saves womans life!


It's amazing all these stories of what dogs do,

most of us just walk them and pick up their poo. ;)

Didn't people used to have to have a licence to have a dog? Why did they stop it, I think it seems a good idea, would help to promote being a responsible dog owner surely?