Dont worry about the restrictions on Meole Brace Shopping Centre .The People operating this system are a private company and CANNOT touch you if you ignore them!!!!!!
Follow this link and learn It has saved me a lot of money!!!!!!!!
http://www.pepipoo.com/ :lol: :lol:

I have seen the signs while doing my shopping on a Saturday afternoon but I haven't seen anyone 'policing' it. How could they unless they watched where everyone went? Which 'system' are you referring to?

as in scam!!!!! until I find out more I was trying to be polite.. They usually use plain vans and cctv as I said follow the link to pepitoo and have a good read....... :D

Thank you lairdmichael for that link. It's a most interesting site and one I have bookmarked.

The fines and penalty points (which can lead to disqualification and higher insurance premiums) for relatively minor motoring offences seem way out of proportion to the penalties for criminal and antisocial behaviour where cautions or community service orders are often given.

Whilst I disagree with the lengths some seem to have gone to trying to evade conviction, I think it is fair enough to challenge things if the proper procedures haven't been followed by the authorities. The information re the private parking situation is most interesting.

I understand that shoppers at the Meole Brace Retail Park will be able to park for up to 90 minutes when there is a match at the new stadium. I can't see how this can be enforced. It's bad enough trying to get in there on a Saturday and if you have to wait whilst a parking chit is handed out then it could lead to gridlock. I think most would rather go to Tesco or Asda.

You seem to be saying that someone is doing a scam with parking at the retail park. Can you give some details, please?

Mmm...that link relates to speeding, not parking offences, doesn't it?

As I understand it, if I allow you to park on my land under certain conditions, then if you do so you are accepting my conditions and agreeing I may charge/fine you if you don't obey them...

Look closer at the site enter by clicking FAQ & Forums There are several sections Speeding,cameras,parking tickets. This site is run by sympathetic police and also specialist lawyers in motoring matters. As for scams again read private parking posts. The people who run "private parking" ie those who look after the likes of Tesco for instance have no authority in law they can only frighten you into paying by saying they will fine you and send in the bailiffs.. Only Courts can fine you and only courts can send in bailiffs!!!!!!! Private parking companies have neverwon a court case!!!!!!
Please note none of the above applies to firms who work for councils they have the backing of the law.......

Two of the most unattractive groupings in modern society: motorists, who believe they should be able to drive, park and speed with impunity, without any consideration for anyone else, and football fans, who believe that nothing should be allowed to get in the way of their club's interests, and everything should be done to make their life easier (for example, roads closed because they can't be sufficiently disciplined to walk in a line on a footpath), again without any consideration for anyone else.

And here we have both at once!

Too True fearthebeast ! Another planning blunder perhaps!

In much the same way as a library operates, I can still say "well, you owe me £100 for parking over-time, and until you pay, you can't use my parking facilities again", though, so there's still some measure of compulsion there. I'm entitled to charge what I like for my park, assuming I don't breach discrimination laws on singling out individuals. Of course, if the council owned MP Retail Park then you've just agreed they can do exactly what is being discussed.

Wrong again the council have to employ the parking company !! You like a lot of others believe what you are told without checking relevant laws. Did you know for instance If your car is being clamped and they have not locked the clamp they must remove the clamp if asked! also if your car is being lifted onto a tow truck to be taken away and one wheel is on the ground they must release it if asked. Also it is illegal to clamp a blue badge holder no matter where He/She parks..I do not like people demanding inexcess of £100 for parking so I fight/ignore them !
Your idea of "if you dont pay £100 you cant park here again" is ok on a little private plot but just imagine mr Tesco I just say ok I will spend my £300 a month in Morrisons then so who is the biggest loser ? :D

I see you have made it over from the Shropshire Star and still as controversial as ever You'll be telling us next you dont Drive Drink Smoke Or follow football Welcome :D :D

Yeah, I wasn't really expecting anything more considered than that. Still, it's nice not to be disappointed.

So, in other words, I'm not wrong, and the council don't have to employ the parking company because I (or Tesco) can do what I like with my "little private plot". Including employ a parking enforcement company, if I like, as long as I stay within the restrictions of how one can enforce the usage policy of one's land. Make your mind up there; it usually helps not to contradict oneself in the same post:).

And if you spend your £300 a month in Morrisons (oh my... I usually spend at most £75 in a month :)) instead of at my supermarket, but someone else uses the parking spot you've vacated and spends £400 in that month, arguably I haven't lost anything at all and have made the optimum use of my car parking space whilst dismissing an inconsiderate individual who overstays his allotted parking time at the expense of others.

If the council employ the parking company ie they pay them for their services,all parking tickets are deemed legal by law and the monies collected go into the councils coffers.......
If you as a private company ie tesco ,aldi,netto, meole brace,and even your self with your little plot ask them to look after your carpark the only money you will see is the original parking fee (ie£2.50 for 2 hrs) Now if I for example overstay my timeslot and I am.clamped by them I will be charged in excess of£100 to have the clamp removed this money goes into the pockets of the clampers not yours now if you think this is fair You must be associated in some way with a parking company or you dont have a car.
As far as parking regs go Councils have the backing of the law ...private companies do not. One point with your observation Tescco still loose my£3600per year for the sake of me overparking once if they had pointed out the errors of my way I would still shop there. What the heck do you live on for £75 a month Bread/water :D :D

http://www.pepipoo.com/FAQ.htms

I have tried to follow this debate but it has gone over the top of my head. I suspect a lawyer with expertise in this area would have a field day correcting many of the claims and statements in many of the posts in this thread.

I do sometimes get the feeling that many motorists in this country feel that it is their god given right to drive, park and do whatever with their car no matter what. Frankly, it is a privilege that you can drive and park anywhere, with only some restrictions in place to mitigate problems of over-use, etc.

At the expense of all other road users.

Exactly - hence why we have parking and traffic regulations.

Taking into account how much it takes to legally run a car, insurance, road tax, fuel costs, servicing, parking fees, m.o.t. plus the cost of leaning to drive and the occasional toll road, i think the average motorist has paid for that a thousandfold ;)

As a car driver myself I appreciate that huge amounts of usable land are given over for the benefit of vehicular traffic that at one time belonged to us all but now is a no go area for pedestrians and especially children who have gradually had their freedom to roam curtailed by the motor car.
Now you can be pedantic and say well how do we get across the road if it is a no go area and of course I am not counting negotiating getting across roads as using that particular piece of land freely.

It is not before time that house developers now have to consider how the access of cars on new estates affects those who live on them and design by new guidelines.
People claim children are not allowed to do things on their own until they are quite a lot older these days. This nothing to do with vast increases in paedophiles but traffic.
All those costs you quote are a choice you make to enhance your life, more children are killed on the roads today than die of infectious diseases. A sobering thought don't you think?

If I park at the Retail Park for over 3 hours on a Sunday - will I likely be clamped?

.... :huh:

thought not - football fan bashing again I suspect

In the next few weeks up to Xmas 3hrs would be the case trying to get out probably!! :D

I'm new to this forum lark,so excuss me asking stuff that would have been discussed elsewhere...
But what is the latest story with the Oteley Road closures?
..I contacted the council about a month back and was told that the closures were only tempory and that as a resident(down sutton grange drive) I should expect a letter from them explaining what was happening.
I just wondered if anyone knew if these closures are here to stay?