Title: Incinerator At Battlefield
Description: is burning the rubbish safe
bakerboy - September 11, 2007 12:55 AM (GMT)
The tip at Battlefeild will have a incinerator to burn all the rubbish around shropshire.
I wonder how safe this is to the residents who live there? :(
Rhassaris - September 12, 2007 08:45 AM (GMT)
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| The tip at Battlefeild will have a incinerator to burn all the rubbish around shropshire. |
Hopefully this includes one or two people and places I can think of around the county. :)
Andy Cooke - September 12, 2007 10:38 PM (GMT)
Probably because everyone will need to keep warm smoking outdoors! :lol:
Redsquirrel - October 9, 2007 07:22 PM (GMT)
Looking at recent copies of the Star and Chronicle, this issue has created another great bandwagon for some of the 'usual suspects'.
Proud Salopian - October 9, 2007 10:53 PM (GMT)
With the wind usually blowing from a SW direction anyway, the smoke/dioxins/whatever will mostly blow towards North Shropshire... :P
Rhassaris - October 10, 2007 11:35 AM (GMT)
That's alright then. People in Wem and Whitchurch in particular will never notice any difference. :)
Andy Cooke - October 10, 2007 04:43 PM (GMT)
Modern dayIncinerators have catalytic convertors attached to them so basically the waste and carbon 'toxins' are non-existant. The meat factory have been burning animal carcasses for years to the North of the town. Mind you it may have affected some people mentally I think, especially around the river loop perhaps. :lol:
Rhassaris, you've been in and out the country too much!! If my geography is correct the incinerator would indeed draw some smoke to the south- west in the winter which is nowhere in the direction of Wem or Whitchurch its more Wrexham or Oswestry direction
the old codger - October 10, 2007 05:44 PM (GMT)
......and nobody seems bothered about the aging crematorium on London Road.
Andy Cooke - October 10, 2007 05:58 PM (GMT)
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the old codger Posted on Oct 10 2007, 05:44 PM ......and nobody seems bothered about the aging crematorium on London Road. |
Fumes of which dump on a prevailing wind aslo head for the river loop. Hence the term 'loopy' maybe!! :lol:
Rhassaris - October 11, 2007 08:52 AM (GMT)
Hmm... since when does "drawing smoke to the south-west" (my italics) mean Wrexham and Oswestry? Anything going towards the south-west of here is heading for Ludlow, Craven Arms, Welshpool, Clun, Church Stretton and the like. Who's got their compass the wrong way round then? :)
Smoke from SW is normally heading towards the NE and that's actually the top right of the county as you look at the map. Which is Wem and Whitchurch - giving me a chance to mock two of my least favourite county settlements (again :)) - and not Oswestry and Wrexham, which are NW from here.
I may have spent several years living outside of Britain altogether, but I do remember the old "never eat shredded wheat" mnemonic about the compass points going NESW, and so I am Quite Right and you are Not. :P
old codger, I like your use of the term "aging" in reference to the crematorium. Great choice of adjective, given the type of clientele its meant to handle :)
Andy Cooke - October 11, 2007 02:35 PM (GMT)
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Rhassaris Posted on Oct 11 2007, 08:52 AM Hmm... since when does "drawing smoke to the south-west" (my italics) mean Wrexham and Oswestry? Anything going towards the south-west of here is heading for Ludlow, Craven Arms, Welshpool, Clun, Church Stretton and the like. Who's got their compass the wrong way round then? |
Extra geography lessons for you Rhassaris! As my school teachers used to say to some pupils. 'I will let you try to work that out one last time''
I will give you a clue if the prevailing wind comes from the south-west then it would come from Ludlow Craven arms, Welshpool........................
Also see PS thread
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Proud Salopian Posted on Oct 9 2007, 10:53 PM With the wind usually blowing from a SW direction anyway, the smoke/dioxins/whatever will mostly blow towards North Shropshire |
The wind direction you are trying to describe would beblowing form a north-easterly direction, or do you have different compasses in the loopy loop! (was it Australia you went too?)
eatshrewsbury - October 11, 2007 03:18 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Andy Cooke @ Oct 10 2007, 04:43 PM) |
| If my geography is correct the incinerator would indeed draw some smoke to the south- west in the winter which is nowhere in the direction of Wem or Whitchurch its more Wrexham or Oswestry direction |
In this statement above your geography is incorrect. A winter North Easterly (blowing from the NE to the SW) would not affect Wrexham or Oswestry. In fact it would go through Shrewsbury towards Pontesbury and Newtown. I think that is the point Rhassaris was making. You are then talk about the prevailing wind (Summer) which as you rightly say comes from the SW and blows towards the NE.
In fact you are both mostly correct, but confused yourselves by talking about prevailing summer winds one minute and then winter North Easterly winds the next. Prevailing means most common so because the prevailing is SW then Shrewsbury should be most frequently ok. But in reality the wind will blow every which way during the year, so we are all done for.
Town_Walls - October 11, 2007 05:07 PM (GMT)
Interesting wind data for Shawbury (from 2003)

The prevailing south-westerlies do stand out, but there is plenty of wind movement from other directions too.
In terms of places which might be affected by Shrewsbury's emissions, this puts Wem pretty much in the firing line, with Wellington, Condover and Nescliffe also up there. Pontesbury and Minsterley will be OK though.
Proud Salopian - October 11, 2007 05:44 PM (GMT)
We (in Shrewsbury) will be fine.
Andy Cooke - October 11, 2007 07:34 PM (GMT)
I think if people can put up with a wiffy river during a hot summer, and all the lovely farm smells which drench the town, they can put up with this !!
lemon squeezer - October 11, 2007 10:00 PM (GMT)
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| and nobody seems bothered about the aging crematorium on London Road. |
I remember reading that the Crem had some sort of chimney upgrade fairly recently to the tune of £500,000.
It had been spewing out mecury amongst other things next to the college for years.
Rhassaris - October 12, 2007 08:50 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (eatshrewsbury @ Oct 11 2007, 03:18 PM) |
| QUOTE (Andy Cooke @ Oct 10 2007, 04:43 PM) | | If my geography is correct the incinerator would indeed draw some smoke to the south- west in the winter which is nowhere in the direction of Wem or Whitchurch its more Wrexham or Oswestry direction |
In this statement above your geography is incorrect. A winter North Easterly (blowing from the NE to the SW) would not affect Wrexham or Oswestry. In fact it would go through Shrewsbury towards Pontesbury and Newtown. I think that is the point Rhassaris was making.
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It was indeed; drawing smoke to the south west means Newtown/Clun et al, whereas a wind from the south west means the benighted blot on the landscape that is Wem (can you spot my bias here? :)).
Either way, we're talking bottom left to top right or top right to bottom left, which in both cases is nothing to do with Oswestry and Wrexham (another place I have a cheerfully irrational distaste for :)). I claim my Quite Right points nonetheless. As PS observed, the prevailing wind blows from a south-westerly direction, meaning heading into the north-east.
If anyone else watches "Jericho" on ITV 4 at the moment and saw Wednesday's episode, they'll know what I'm talking about when I say I wish it was that kind of wind which was heading for Wem... :) :)
Andy Cooke - October 13, 2007 07:21 PM (GMT)
For the sake of pity Rhassaris I will say you think you are right ! :lol: