No Not that sort of flasher I mean the orange one's on cars .The sort that 75% of drivers do not use in Shrewsbury. Why o why do people not use them especially on roundabouts either that or they use them and then fail to cancel them lulling you into a false sense of security and when they do turn you nearly ram them which of course is your fault !!!< well I had my indicator working>...So come on you non users why do you do it or not as the case maybe I'd love to read your excuses......... ;)

It is annoying but 75% might be a slight exaggeration methinks!

Now there is 'flashers' and women drivers but I wont go there :D (To all feminists and indeed all female drivers, that was a joke) Perhaps it was 75% of women drivers? ........'Thats what the pretty orange light is for'!

What gripes me actually is foreign lorry drivers especially who create rolling roadblocks on dual carriageways,as one lorry tries to overtake the other and takes about ten minutes to do it!

Its not just the use (or non use ) of indicators at traffic islands, some drivers simply dont know the rules when they drive round them, especially mini islands or roundabouts. In Newport today some young driver heading out of town stopped at that rised mini island for a large van which was coming from her left WHY? she has right of way! So i had to stop, heading towards the town centre for this van in case he pulled out. For a second or two we all did northing, so as i had a 7. 5 tonne truck ( pulling rank? ) i carried on and so did she but what vext me was why she stopped at all. G :huh:

I know what you mean lairdmichael. When I took my driving test, 37 years ago, you had to know your hand signals. When did you last see anybody using them? I agree that it is a guessing game with some drivers as to where they are going or, indeed, what they intend doing. The other day, a car in front of me stopped on a straight road without any indication - slowed down, braked, stopped - no hand signal, of course!

By your description, geoffum, that sounds like a newly qualified driver which is worrying given how much more difficult it is said to be these days to pass the driving test. A stranger, perhaps, unsure of where to go?

I know exactly what you mean Laidmichael.

I have just returned from work and from the turning by the abbey up towards Cineworld and all the way to Meole Brace Island I was following someone (a middle aged woman actually but I'm not getting into that debate at this time) who not only was speeding up and down randomly most of the way but was using no indicators and actually driving in the wrong lane and then cutting across at the last minute as well as weaving between lanes on one section of the road.

I would have over taken her before meole island (the roads were clear and you have a long enough road between reabrook island and meole island) if it were not for the fact that she had the lane discipline of a retarded chimp with no clue about what that little switch on the steering column that makes the lights flash is for.

the old codger:

I dont think the use of indicators is a problem with newer drivers in the main but there are those (read as Chavs) who are over confident and have no concept of civilised driving and just race around like idiots and dont care about anyone else on the road.

The modern driving test is a pedantic entity, they check and expect you to demonstrate everything including an understanding of adaptive driving and correct procedures although hand signals are not covered in lessons or the test.

In my experience there are bad young drivers (again read as chavs) but many seem to be older people who have been driving so long that they feel they can cut corners because they are "experienced" (I know a few people like that) as well as the 4x4 town dweller lot who think they always have the right of way regardless of actual rules of the road.

In the case of this muppet that I was stuck behind this morning, I just gave her plenty of space and waited for her to turn off somewhere.