Title: Faye Turney
Description: Iran hostage crisis
jammyholt - March 30, 2007 11:06 AM (GMT)
I'm surprised this hasn't been aired on the forum already... what are your thoughts on this whole issue? The lastest video has a lot of sceptical edit points and he's obviously being prompted by someone off-camera.
Mark - March 30, 2007 11:19 AM (GMT)
I have been on the road for most of the last week and haven't been up to speed on current events, but I was surprised to see that this hasn't been mentioned on the forum. She is from Shrewsbury, if I heard correctly?
jammyholt - March 30, 2007 12:16 PM (GMT)
Yes, Faye grew up in Shrewsbury, going to Meole Brace School. I believe she now lives in Plymouth at the naval base there with her husband, but her parents and siblings are still in Shrews.
Andy Cooke - April 8, 2007 09:44 PM (GMT)
Faye has done very well out of this really now. OK she suffered the trauma but once again somewhat chose her destiny in a way, the risks are there for every serviceperson as she is quoted saying!
A six figure sum from a popular newspaper is now hers! Perhaps she can retire and come back to Shrewsbury and 'bring-up' her kids now!
Seems a bit unfair when your son or daughter is killed whilst abroad fighting the somewhat 'american' cause.
The harsh realtity of your relatives returning in a coffin and receiving nothing financially is sad enough!
Is this really necessary to 'pay-off' people in this way?
I wonder if any of Faye's bounty will go to a military charity ?
Redsquirrel - April 8, 2007 10:22 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Andy Cooke @ Apr 8 2007, 09:44 PM) |
Faye has done very well out of this really now. OK she suffered the trauma but once again somewhat chose her destiny in a way, the risks are there for every serviceperson as she is quoted saying! A six figure sum from the Sun newspaper is now hers! Perhaps she can retire and come back to Shrewsbury and 'bring-up' her kids now!
Seems a bit unfair when your son or daughter is killed whilst abroad fighting the somewhat 'american' cause. The harsh realtity of your relatives returning in a coffin and receiving nothing financially is sad enough Is this really necessary to 'pay-off' people in this way?
I wonder if any of Faye's bounty will go to a military charity ? |
Yes, I also feel very uneasy about the possibility of these marines and sailors making a substantial amount of money off the back of their ordeal.
That said, I'm chuffed to bits that Faye and her comrades were returned safely back to blighty.
Andy Cooke - April 9, 2007 09:19 AM (GMT)
I'm pleased that they are back also but these sailors seem to be political propoganda pawns. I think its disgusting for any government to use people in such a way! The labour Party need to stand up to the Iranians in a more intelligent fashion and not stoop to deceit by using somewhat 'copycat' tacticts to the Iranians. Its political gutter tactics bowing to an already gutter press in my opinion.
The British army are already saying they would have not let a soldier sell his or her story to the press in such a way! Their commanders are bold enough to challenge government ministers who make these descisions!
Redsquirrel - April 9, 2007 12:45 PM (GMT)
jonesy55 - April 9, 2007 02:27 PM (GMT)
I guess we'll never know the truth of whether they were in Iraqi or Iranian waters, especially as the exact border is disputed.
This is the real crux of the matter. If they were in Iranian waters, Iran had every right to hold them as we would if we found an Iranian warship in the Solent but if they weren't Iran should be shown that their actions are unacceptable.
As we don't know though, maybe it's best just to draw a line under it and resist any further provocation on either side. After all nobody got hurt in the end.
Munky - April 9, 2007 08:49 PM (GMT)
Im just lost for words over the whole afffair, it is good to see them all back, yes i said all, theres no special treatment for women here, wheres the dissaplin gone, it's war, people get hurt, in past wars you'd be more worried about getting shot by your superiors if you did'nt fight, thats before the enemy get to you, we're getting too americanised, break wind next to someone and face getting sued.
being held in a hostage situation is a very personal attack on the individual, i would want to keep it to myself or try and get over it not sell my story, a story which by time the press has finished with it will be 40% true and %60 hollywood fantasy, like the press even care, they just want to sell papers, no, dirty money, i would'nt touch it
kateharris - April 10, 2007 09:32 AM (GMT)
well i am really glad they got out safely. and i have mixed feelings about the pay off from newspapers-but then i blame the newpapers for that !
surely most people would have done the same?
but one thing i did think about them selling the story was that maybe we get a better insight into what these sailers and soldiers go through.
i do think we forget how awful it must be out there. i didnt realise it had been going on for 4 years until the other day. it just always seems to be the same thing about it on the news and you kind of switch off to it. i just wish we hadnt gone there in the first place!!! but i do think we should have done something about zimbabwe !!! that man is eveil and destroying the country and people
jammyholt - April 10, 2007 11:08 AM (GMT)
The papers only spend the money on what people will read - it's a comment on society.
Many people I know who've criticised have been reading all about it...
I do think though that the MOD was wrong to simply buckle to pressure in this one case.
I'm sure there were many many soldiers who deservedly could've made money out of their experiences, but will never see a penny.
But I will never criticise the Sun for paying or Faye for accepting.
Andy Cooke - April 10, 2007 07:44 PM (GMT)
The 'papers' James, in this case 'The Sun', 'soceitys comment'? A paper that most people read because it has more photos than print but dont always necessarily believe whats written in it thank goodness!
I think in these cases like in the past, statements could be put out by the forces administrators. I think also thought needs to be given at the reprecussions on the service men and women cashing in on this badly managed incident. It is bound to create some friction from other quarters on them.
Dont think the same thing happened entirely in The iranian Hostage Crisis for america and also to two RAF airmen during the first attempt for america and the UK to stop Iraq through its invasion of Kuwait.
I think another reprecussion is for these hostage takers because in my opinion thats all they are, may see fit to start pin-pointing editors and newspaper owners if all this gets too commercial. No further comment!
Munky - April 11, 2007 02:35 PM (GMT)
If the papers wern't full of barely dressed women would they still sell?
News <> Breast's, i must be missing the link , please point it out to me
Proud Salopian - April 11, 2007 02:40 PM (GMT)
You're talking about the tabloids, which aren't really newspapers. Real newspapers are The Times, The Telegraph, The Independent, Financial Times and The Guardian.
Andy Cooke - April 11, 2007 05:04 PM (GMT)
And the government admit now they made a mistake on this whole issue letting this PR disaster take place initially! Another total embarassment for labour! These idiots are trying to run this country!
Town_Walls - April 11, 2007 06:40 PM (GMT)
There's a nasty undercurrent of snobbery associated with criticism of Faye Turney (although not on this forum, I hasten to add).
Andy Cooke - April 11, 2007 08:45 PM (GMT)
What sickens me TW is that these sailors have been used as pawns by 'our' government and not one of them so far have made this assumption. Their bounty I suppose supresses this and they wouldnt dare to speak up about their navy commanders the government of the day seem now to be blaming! :angry:
I would add, I too think this Forum is 'open' in its approach as I would have thought its administrators, who run it very well, are too (i'm not a creep) I would have thought that potential 'snobs' would be sorted out by some of the forums dedicated posters.